Monday, April 20, 2009

comparative thoughts about school and HE

in some areas, children do NOT need tuition from someone who has made academic study of that area, or even from someone with expertise in that area (eg computer games, and of course this is a well duh point to make). they will reach excellence on their own.

in other areas, and the one which came to my mind was skateboarding, children seek out for themselves the expertise to help them get as good at the activity as they want to. they will happily spend 3 hours a day for years and years trying and failing to do that thing where you jump up and spin the board under your feet, land on it and keep going. They hang out with older skateboarders watching what they do, they take tips from the more expert ones when offered. And they don't need parents to find them a skateboarding tutor or school teachers to timetable a NC skateboarding hour every day in order to make sure they devote enough time to it. They themselves seek the help and tuition they need from older experts.

Self motivation is the key not only to learning but also to finding the advice and expertise and, yes, teaching you might need in order to learn as much about an area as you want to. A big advantage of schools is that they gather the advice, expertise and teaching provision in a fairly wide range of areas of human knowledge under the one roof. A big disadvantage of schools is that children have to access the advice, expertise and teaching provision on other people's terms as far as timetables and curriculum and so on are concerned. Schools just can't, by their nature, be as good at just-in-time personalised self-motivated learning for a child as the freedom to chase their current interests with support and advice from parents and the contacts of their friends and relations would be. And all those museum/zoo/national trust type staff just waiting for a persistent child to come along with questions. The world is full of trainspotters who love nothing better than to talk about their passion.

I can see that some think that it's important for children to be prepared to learn what other people think is important, and not to be expecting people to be prepared to help with their current passion at the drop of a hat. But the law says I should be providing an efficient education for my children, and I can't think of anything more efficient than educating them by helping them learn what they want to learn when they want it. Good schools do a splendid job of persuading children to learn what's on the agenda for today but I'm after maximum educational efficiency

so a reason to send a child to school would be about accessing, under one roof, all sorts of expertise and experience at communicating ideas to children.

And a reason not to be would be about maximising the efficiency with which a child accesses the knowledge and understanding and expertise they are interested in at any particular time.

There are good reasons why a lot of HE children go to FE colleges for GCSEs and A levels and diplomas - they consider it a way of getting the best of both worlds.


Anonymous said...

Good article. I likes.

Some crits:

"eg computer games, and of course this is a well duh point to make"

You might benefit from the advice of an experienced game player, be it face to face or through a guide or walkthrough. In a sense, those will be teachers. Games are not "duh" easy.

"And they don't need parents to find them a skateboarding tutor"

They need parents to take them to the park at the time where the children can find other experienced skateboarders. Until they are "old" (skilled, independent) enough to go on their own, of course.

"A big disadvantage of schools is that children have to access the advice, expertise and teaching provision on other people's terms as far as timetables and curriculum and so on are concerned."

Fair point. What seem to forget is that home education is not a magical alternative to that. It also involve shedules if you are going to use outside help, even if it's just the time other skateboarding kids pop up in the park.

Also, something you forget. Parents might no be good at teaching. You might misinterpret a child's lack of interest in maths.

Anonymous said...

Didn't finish that. You might misinterpret a child's lack of interest in maths as... not interested yet, when the child would be happily taught be someone else that not the parent.

emma said...

the "well duh" bit was because so many people think that children can't get good at anything without parental or other adult guidance and nudging. But lots and lots of parents have children who spend as much time as permitted on computer games and get really good at them. But of course you are right in your caveat.

And yes, you're right about the taking to the park. What I notice around the place is boys of about 10 years upwards with no parents. But you're right, maybe the parents drop them off or something. In many urban areas, I'm guessing children start skateboarding in their local streets and parks as soon as they are being allowed out alone.

Completely agreeing that HE also requires scheduling. But at least, in autonomous HE, that scheduling reflects the interests, desires and consent of the child. That's the big difference.

yeah - parent as rubbish person at explaining stuff - kid would probably ask to go to school I think. What do you think?

Thanks for the comment :) Haven't seen you "around" for a while. Hope all is well.

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Willow said...

A lot of teachers are no good at teaching.

Anonymous said...

"A lot of teachers are no good at teaching."

True. This shouldn't serve as comfort to the parent, though. You look up, not down.

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have emailed a gmail account I have for you. hope it works!

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